EP 203 | A Game-Changing Encounter with God – Rob Reynolds & Jason Stuhlmiller

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[00:00:00] Rob Reynolds: I’ve read the Quran for 34 years and he stood up and evangelized and the whole thing just got saved. He’s like, I’ve read it for 34 years of my life. Never have I got what I got out. As soon as I started reading the word of God. Wow. And I started really reading the Bible and it come to life to me, and I went baptized now, and he comes.

[00:00:16] Rob Reynolds: I’m like, what? I’m saying there’s a hunger. 

[00:00:18] Justin Franich: Hey y’all. Thank you for jumping into another episode of the podcast. I have a kind of spur of the moment. We are getting ready for our time of worship and prayer at the table in Harrisburg, and my good friend Rob Reynolds is here. I’m here with Jason and I roped him into sitting down and having the random outta nowhere conversation and we literally, maybe this doesn’t speak to preparedness a lot, but we literally just decided on the topic as we were having our discussion prior to sitting down and said, we’re just gonna bring y’all into that conversation and on talk about the harvest and what the Lord is doing.

[00:00:49] Justin Franich: You know, it’s interesting as you guys were talking, I was on, I was remembering a vision. I think I shared this with you, that I had earlier this fall. Where um, the Lord had showed me that I was going to the garden with a tiller and I was supposed to be going to the garden of the basket. That I was in this mindset of going into the garden to break the ground up as seed and the Lord was trying to say, no, it’s a time to get your basket and go out and collect the fruit that’s already grown.

[00:01:20] Justin Franich: And so y’all were talking about your kind of the fruit, some of your evangelistic ministry. You know what you’re seeing the Lord do in the prisons. And kind of what you guys were talking about, what you’re seeing happen here at the Tabor, like God is just moving everywhere and uh, it really is a season of harvest, you know, to see the harvest come in.

[00:01:38] Justin Franich: So let’s just follow that thread and you guys wanna jump in and. Rob, let me ask you, tell me a little bit about what’s happening in with the ministry that you’re leading the way ministries and on what you’re seeing the Lord do in the jails prisons right now. Oh, pretty amazing. 

[00:01:53] Rob Reynolds: Crazy. Um, he was just telling Jason, literally at the Eastern Regional Jail, which is where I spent two and a [00:02:00] half years in prison, in jail, uh, instance, several other time before that.

[00:02:04] Rob Reynolds: But, uh, that’s where God had me or the devil had me for a while, but then God has released me back in there. And I’ve seen in a couple months since, I’d say September, October, September, October, and a little end November, so two and a half months maybe, we’ve seen 83 Salvation of the Men. Uh, I go there and preach three services a day, and then there’s, we’re in 35 baptism with the men then end up and preach to women, which are normally not even something they do, but he is like, Hey, you wanna preach to women?

[00:02:33] Rob Reynolds: I’m like, absolutely. Um, there’s been 18 or 19 women give their life to Christ. All of them are waiting to be baptized. There’s 20 more on the baptism list for the men, and then I’m getting into juvenile center up in Chick Buck beat. And uh, there’s out of 23 kids, 18 of those have given their life to Christ and they’re getting ready to go through a discipleship series that I just got approved.

[00:02:56] Rob Reynolds: And I mean, I’m seeing things, honestly. If I could be as real as I can be, which I will, you know me, but I’m seeing things happen in the jail that lots of times I’m not seeing in the church right now out of. Yeah, either unsaved or backslid in Christians that don’t even understand it. Like, I mean, I’ve cast demons out almost every time I’m there outta people.

[00:03:19] Rob Reynolds: It’s a, I mean, it’s what you’re gonna get when you go there. You’re better ready for that. For sure. And there’s this, I remember one guy that like, there was so many demons coming out of him, but he still could hear voices and he is like, they won’t leave. And I watched eight other guys in the room.

[00:03:36] Rob Reynolds: Tattooed hard men come around. This man while he’s weepy, lay hands on him and every one of ’em is still going. You remember when you’ve spoke Matthew six over me. You remember when you spoke Loop, like when they started quoting the scripture back to him, how they encouraged him and I thought, wow, this is real.

[00:03:53] Rob Reynolds: This is really God pulling out in the jail cell. It’s happening. And the chaplain, he’s wasn’t used to [00:04:00] oasis like I, I, I don’t know what to do. I’m like, it’s God’s favor. The, the, the, the guards in the jail that hated him in the beginning are actually coming to him, asking him to pray for him and giving him favor now and helping him with the baptisms.

[00:04:14] Rob Reynolds: And so it’s like God is just pouring out this wave of his presence and his goodness all over the place. Seeing it in high schools and the rivals. The jails, the prisons, the rehabs. It’s just crazy. I love it. Yeah, man, 

[00:04:27] Jason Stuhlmiller: that’s awesome. 

[00:04:27] Rob Reynolds: As an evangelist, I love the harvest. You know, we can talk about that all night, but I just think we’re in a season though of.

[00:04:36] Rob Reynolds: I mean, even being an ag person. Okay, that’s the most evangelistic supposed denomination out there, right? Yeah. But everywhere I go it’s like, where are they at? Right? Like I think we’ve had generations where we’ve really lost the the want to get out. And go cast our net. So I think that’s what the Lord’s been speaking to me lately.

[00:04:56] Rob Reynolds: Like we haven’t been tending the nets, getting them ready to go, but now Jesus is saying, launch out into the deep, go to the dark places, go to the places nobody wants to go. It’s time. Get ready for the harvest. And so I’m, I’m really believing for an evangelistic move to come back. Yeah. You know? 

[00:05:13] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:05:14] It’s crazy. Jason, how does that resonate kind of to what you guys are seeing happen? Yeah, right here at the table and here in the Harrisonburg Rockland County area. 

[00:05:22] Jason Stuhlmiller: You know, um, Robbie mentioned the nets in, in, uh, in January we were at a, uh. Um, a, a little mini conference with Nate Kler and, uh, I had a vision that, um, that the first part of the year that the Lord was, was getting his churches and, and the ministries ready and the second half of, and of this year that the harvest was going to be starting.

[00:05:46] Jason Stuhlmiller: And, um, man, for us, it’s kind of been on the campuses, you know, there, there’s been just this, this thing of. Re digging wells of revival on campuses. It’s in cities, and as we were talking about [00:06:00] this, gen Z, gen Z generation and the younger generation, there is a hunger. Yeah, there’s a hunger for real and authentic.

[00:06:06] Jason Stuhlmiller: They’ve, they’ve seen it fake too much. They’ve seen the, they’ve played the game too long, or they’ve seen the game played too long, and they’re hungry for real. And so we’ve just seen a wave of, of ones that are hungry for discipleship. Like, they wanna know the Lord better. And that’s, uh, for us, that’s been really encouraging.

[00:06:24] Jason Stuhlmiller: And, and it’s, you, you mentioned school of ministry earlier and, uh, so last year we, we launched something called Countership. And really what it’s been is this community discipleship, an opportunity to bring people together, walk with them, and know not only the Lord better, but get to know family better.

[00:06:41] Jason Stuhlmiller: Amen. So it’s, yeah, I think a revival of family is, is beginning in this season. Yeah. 

[00:06:47] Yeah, that’s powerful with Gen Z folks. So, outta curiosity, both of you guys have seen God do some tremendous things. You know, Jason used to work here. Rob, I mean, I know you’ve been out, you’ve seen some incredible moves of God at some of the high schools and and services that the Lord’s allowed you to be planted in.

[00:07:04] Are you guys seeing, for the most part, are these unchurched. Are these, are these younger folks that were churched and the version of Christianity they were brought up in didn’t quite work? Or is it kind of a mixture like, I’m just curious son. 

[00:07:19] Rob Reynolds: I think it’s a mixture. Um, I was telling him earlier when we was talking about that, she said, when he was talking about the harvest, you know, I think the enemy is always greedy and overplay his hand.

[00:07:28] Rob Reynolds: Mm-hmm. Like he, he’s so, he, he doesn’t just take an inch, he wants a mile. You know what I mean? And. He has been doing that and doing that and doing that, and I think he’s gotten this generation, both the loss that have just been broken and never been in church. You know what I mean? Obviously they’ve seen the judgemental side of the church and don’t want it, but then you have the ones that’s grown up in it, but it’s, they have no point of reference of really a move of God.

[00:07:53] Rob Reynolds: It’s just been a tradition that everybody did in their family, and like he said, it’s just not working. Mm-hmm. It’s not real. It’s kind of just this thing they [00:08:00] do. And then, you know, people live differently through the week and like, that’s not working. And I think you’ve got a mixture of both of them.

[00:08:06] Rob Reynolds: People that are just saying, show me the real thing. And if the enemy pushing all that away and taking the Bible outta school and doing all of this stuff and all the confusion with gender and all of that, like all of that’s going to looks really, really bad. But I think he’s messed up and gotten people so broken that if we’ll just take ’em to gospel.

[00:08:25] Rob Reynolds: That’s right. They’re ready for the raw real gospel that sets them free. And if we’ll just go out and do that. If we’ll launch out into the deep, you know what I mean? That’s what he’s talking about in Luke five. He’s like, Peter, launch out into the, we fished all night. No. Right. Launch out. We’ve been fishing, we’ve been trying.

[00:08:39] Rob Reynolds: Even now they’re broken and they’re ready. Go launch your nets. 

[00:08:42] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yeah. Try the other side. Yeah. That’s really fun. Yeah. Similarly, I think it’s a, it’s a mixture, um, of both the, both those that have grown up in the church and then those that are just discovering this, uh. Um, for the first time, there’s a, a couple years ago I was asked to come share a evangelism committee at a, just a more traditional church in the area.

[00:09:03] Jason Stuhlmiller: And they, uh, they were interested in young people. How do we get young people involved? How do we get young people to our church? And, um, a couple of people like, so should we, we provide like hot dogs, should we give pizza for them to come? And I’m like. Uh, guys, I don’t know if that’s gonna work. I think you gotta go get ’em.

[00:09:20] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yeah. Like go to the campuses, go to the college campuses, go to the high school campuses, start building relationship, show the, show these, the youth of America that you care. Yeah. And that’s what changes hearts. And it’s really like, I, I mentioned this earlier, but I feel like that we’re really in a season of restoring family.

[00:09:39] Jason Stuhlmiller: Family, 

[00:09:40] yeah. Yeah. 

[00:09:41] Jason Stuhlmiller: The enemy has done a great job of tearing apart family. Yeah. And it was God’s idea to begin with, right? Like he’s our father. Yeah. So he is, he’s created this concept of family and he’s bringing, and, and this kind of last week, uh, David Bradshaw was here and, um, he’s getting ready to launch this, uh.

[00:09:58] Jason Stuhlmiller: Communion table up in [00:10:00] DC next, uh, for the Feast of Tabernacles, and it’s bringing people to the table. Like that’s the table. A powerful thing happens, right? Yeah. You eat, but then when you eat together, like you just do life fellowship. Yeah, yeah. You fellowship, there’s family. It’s, it’s, um, it’s powerful.

[00:10:15] Yeah. You think a lot of the digital age, I mean a lot of what I mean. I think we’re all part of the generation that had to adopt and adapt to social media. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. It didn’t exist. 

[00:10:26] Rob Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:10:26] But I mean, really a lot of the stuff that gets a lot of flack from the younger generation, like it, it really is at it’s root, it’s the desire to connect with people.

[00:10:33] Yeah. Yeah. And I think the church has not done a great job with that. ’cause the, you know, it’s like, it’s like the younger folks that have 20,000 Instagram followers, you know what I’m saying? The, the right. They don’t have any Instagram followers. They’ll put a, they’ll put a picture up like once every two months, but yet when they do it’s like massive.

[00:10:53] ’cause they’re like one on one connecting in dms. Right. You know what I’m saying? There’s like this, this deep connection that’s taking place. It’s funny you guys mentioned the family. I was on, apple released a TV ad this last week and it was the first time in a long time that I’ve seen one of these really large companies.

[00:11:12] Like positively represent the family. 

[00:11:14] Jason Stuhlmiller: Oh wow. 

[00:11:15] There was a mom, there was a competent dad. You know what I’m saying? And there were two kids in this, in this ad. Yeah. And you’re seeing this now, like for the first time, and this is non-Christian companies Yeah. Is usually your hyper woke companies that, that do all the nonsense, and yet you’re seeing this family presented.

[00:11:31] Mm-hmm. Wow. That, that’s powerful. And there’s something, there is something shifting right now. Yeah. It’s really interesting to watch. Yeah. 

[00:11:37] Jason Stuhlmiller: I think one other thing that I’ve learned, uh, walking with just a, um, you know, we, we, we, we specified as this Gen Z generation, gen alphas coming right behind. Yes. But man, they, they want to see.

[00:11:50] Jason Stuhlmiller: They wanna be heard, they wanna be involved. They don’t necessarily, you know, I think our generation, we would’ve, we would’ve went and served and been like, okay. Our leaders would’ve said, okay, it’s not your time [00:12:00] yet. Maybe in five years you can go, yeah. That’s not working with this, this, yeah, this group of kids, um, they wanna see it at the table now.

[00:12:07] Jason Stuhlmiller: They wanna be involved. They wanna see where they can be put to use and they want to do it. Yeah. 

[00:12:11] Rob Reynolds: Yeah. And if we can figure out how to work with that and navigate that in the right way. Wow. What a blessing to all of us. That’s right. Yeah. Which increases the harvest, right? Yes. Like, yeah. Yeah. 

[00:12:20] Well, the Internet’s been the great equalizer.

[00:12:22] Mm-hmm. We have 20 year olds that are. Multi-millionaires starting companies in their bedrooms. Right. You know what I mean? That’s crazy. Yeah. We didn’t have that when you were So, I tell people all the time, I’m glad DoorDash didn’t exist. ’cause I’d have been, I’d have been door dashing in between meth runs, you know what I’m saying?

[00:12:38] Like, there’s no question. 

[00:12:39] Rob Reynolds: Dude. I drove a cab there. My meth runs. I get you. I would’ve, you might’ve been door dashing. Meth runs. Yeah, absolutely the same. Yeah. 

[00:12:45] Flipping it and selling the food. All of it all at once. It’d been, but like, just this gener, it’s just different. Right. You know, than when we were, we were coming up.

[00:12:55] Yeah. What were you, sorry? You were saying something and I, I started talking about DoorDash and meth. Oh, I don’t know. That’s, I done messed it all up. 

[00:13:02] Rob Reynolds: I just said I, I would’ve been like, I was driving a cab during that stuff, you know what I mean? So I figured out how to incorporate, but we didn’t have DoorDash or any of that, you know?

[00:13:10] Rob Reynolds: Um, but just sitting there and thinking about how we can, how we can tap into, and, and again, I think. A lot of it, man. We was at a conference a few weeks ago with a bunch of mentors that I know we stand in Charleston. A lot of ’em, uh, Tony Suarez was there and a couple other people, and really was talking about how.

[00:13:31] Rob Reynolds: We’ve missed it some as a whole in the church. Yeah. For these next generations. Mm-hmm. By giving them really a point of reference of a move of God. Right. A point of reference of signs, wonders, and miracles that are normal. 

[00:13:44] Mm-hmm. 

[00:13:44] Rob Reynolds: You know what I mean? Their normalcy of. You know, gen Z’s church is like show up on Sunday.

[00:13:50] Rob Reynolds: Good to worship. 20 minutes to the word and roll out, right? There’s really no sal. I mean, half times you go to church, there’s not even a salvation call. There’s nobody at the altar and like we’re [00:14:00] wondering why they don’t want anything that they want to be hands on, right? They want to get involved and if God’s not moving, like we wonder why they’re drifting away.

[00:14:08] Rob Reynolds: There’s no real point. I’m not saying there isn’t, but it’s, it’s, yeah. Makes sense. Few and and far between. You gotta really seek, I know where I’m at. You gotta seek, I gotta drive 35 minutes or come up here two hours to find a church that’s really moving. Yeah. And is hosting the presence of God, not just having some traditional thing.

[00:14:26] I think we’ve all over the last two decades though, watch this on this multi-campus corporate church model become prevalent and popular. Because I remember when we were first getting involved in ministry, it wasn’t, it was the one off. Yeah. But like the large churches, and I’m not knocking ’em like Life, church and others.

[00:14:42] No, praise 

[00:14:42] Rob Reynolds: God. 

[00:14:42] That, that really, um, popularized the, the corporate church, if you will, you know, church in a box, you can go in, launch in a community, three or 400 people come out and then you’re getting to multiple services, multiple locations very fast. And so what it created is this 60 minute 

[00:14:59] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yeah. Yes. In out 

[00:15:00] experience where it was easy to hide.

[00:15:03] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yes. 

[00:15:04] And, and there’s been some, don’t get me wrong, there’s been fruit with some of those churches. Absolutely. Like I get it, but that this generation, that’s what they kind of, a lot of ’em are raised in seeing. Yes. Is that we’re involved in church and yet now it’s like the small is being valued again. Yeah.

[00:15:19] I, you guys talk about people being hungry. Like we’ve been involved in Teen Challenge for 15 years and you used to have to pull tooth and nail to get guys to respond. Yeah. But we got guys coming in and within two, three weeks they’re standing over here in the corner here worshiping hands in the air, you know, not thinking everybody’s crazy ’cause they’re dancing.

[00:15:42] Rob Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:15:42] And like guys getting saved and baptized and then telling somebody else about Jesus two days later. Yeah. You know? And it used to be five, six month journey to get guys to that. Yes. To get into that point. Yeah. Wow. Like that they’re actually engaging, there’s a hunger. Yeah. That. Rather they grew up in church or not.

[00:15:58] That is there right now [00:16:00] and it’s, it’s pretty, it’s pretty astonishing. 

[00:16:01] Rob Reynolds: That’s, that’s happening at the jails too. Mm-hmm. I was telling him earlier, like, there’s been two Muslim guys at the regional jail that came. And they’re like, yeah, no, this Jesus guy, but I, you know, I’m like, okay, cool man. And then demons were casted out and stuff was happening.

[00:16:17] Rob Reynolds: They were just sitting there and the guy came two or three weeks in a go a row, and the chaplain called me like a week later and said, Hey, you’re not gonna believe it. Guess what? The Muslim guy, I was like, yeah, he gave us life to Christ in the cell, and he’s on fire. Wait till you come. He wants baptized.

[00:16:30] Rob Reynolds: And so we did baptisms and he’s right in the front row and I said, I, I gotta know, like I’ve heard, like you give your life to Christ. And he said. Pastor, I gotta tell you. I’m like, what? He said, I’ve read the Quran for 34 years, and he stood up and evangelized and the whole thing just got saved. He’s like, I’ve read it for 34 years of my life.

[00:16:48] Rob Reynolds: Never have I got what I got out. As soon as I started reading the word of God. Wow. And I started really reading the Bible and it come to life to me. And I went baptized now, and he comes running. I’m like, that’s what I’m saying, there’s a hunger. Yeah. And then there’s a guy that come in. Two weeks ago, and he pushed his Bible to the front.

[00:17:05] Rob Reynolds: And I’m like, how you doing? Because I always ask him, what are you doing here? What do you want out of chapel? What do you want? You know what I mean? And he’s like, this thing’s not even real. It’s just a storybook that you read to your kids at night. And I said, I just pray. By the end of the service, holy Spirit touches you.

[00:17:18] Rob Reynolds: Where you realize that it’s tangible, that’s presence is all over you. And I started telling my testimony and I heard his. And I turn around and he’s just bawling. And I’m like, are you okay? He’s like, I don’t know what it is, man. And I’m like, yes, Lord, president. And I just stopped. I’m like, does anybody else wanna give it life to Christ?

[00:17:34] Rob Reynolds: Because I’m assuming you do. He is like, yeah, four people did. And he couldn’t even repeat what I was saying ’cause he was sobbing so much. Wow. There’s a broken hungriness in people. A desperation. Yeah. Like you’re saying, it’s, it’s not as hard as it is. ’cause I really feel like the har it’s he’s prime in the harvest, man.

[00:17:49] Yeah. That’s good. Yeah, that’s good. It’s been easier to witness, like than normally and Yeah. Yeah, man, we had, we had a guy, I, I’m [00:18:00] not gonna tell the whole story ’cause I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna put anybody on blast, but we had a guy minister to a dude at his job and he, he hit him on some things from, a guy from our church got fired up on Sunday, went and ministered to his coworker and hit him pretty hardcore on something that would’ve got him fired.

[00:18:17] Should have got him fired the way he men in normal culture. But the dude responded to it, showed up at church a week later, gave his life to Christ at the altar, and was in the water two weeks later. Wow. You know, and like, yeah, and, and the wrong moment I. How what he challenged him on would’ve got him fired.

[00:18:37] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yeah. 

[00:18:37] But yet the Lord used that. And there is, there’s just a openness to hear the truth of the gospel. Um, so how do we respond man to, um, the hunger that we’re seeing in, in Gen Z folks like, you know, Jason, you guys have got this on unique environment here. You know, where it’s, it’s small, it’s intimate, you know, it’s close.

[00:18:57] I’ve heard you use the thing, life to life. Mm-hmm. One-to-one discipleship. Life on Life Discipleship over and over since I’ve known you on, I mean, what, what kind of program do we create for people? Right. Kind of tongue and cheek question. Right. You know, like, yeah. I, yeah. That just, just in general, like how do we respond to the hunger in people?

[00:19:15] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yeah. Man, I, um. I think this is part of the, my answer, but I think the Acts two and three church mm-hmm. Um, is the model of, I think what is, what is coming, what is happening right now. Um, because it’s, it’s a meeting in homes, it’s meeting in the intimate places. It’s meeting it. It’s not this, this, and, and not, not against the corporate, but it’s not everything corporate Jesus wise.

[00:19:41] Jason Stuhlmiller: It’s, you know, Jesus meets us in our room. He meets us in our secret place. And I feel like that’s a, that’s a big part of it, is the secret place. You know this, this absolutely this generation, they know the lingo. They, they’ve been, they’ve grown up with the lingo. Yeah. But I don’t know if they know how to cultivate it.

[00:19:57] Jason Stuhlmiller: Yeah. Secret place. Well, yeah. That’s where you meet with God, but [00:20:00] do you know how to do it? Yeah. Do you know how to get into that place and allow the Lord to speak to you? Do you know how to hear his voice? So that’s, I think for, for us, that’s been a big play, a big piece of just teaching intimacy with the Lord, not just expecting that you have it right, without laying it out step by step.

[00:20:16] Yeah. Yeah. That’s really good. You, you. You have a generation that just has never had more information available to them. Mm, yeah. Like what are they gonna do with more information? Yeah. You know what I’m saying? Like, there’s nothing, write a book, I can’t see. So needs to be some 

[00:20:32] Rob Reynolds: application. 

[00:20:33] Yeah. It’s like it’s gotta, there’s gotta be that encounter, that experiential encounter that’s gotta take place.

[00:20:38] ’cause like, man, I, I think about this as a pastor all the time. Everybody in my church can pull up somebody that can preach 15 times better than me. Yeah. Before they leave the parking lot. You know what I’m saying? Like, like there’s nothing I can, there’s no eloquence that I can give. Yeah. I think as Paul talked about that, right, he said, I, I don’t comment eloquence of why speech, but a demonstration of power, you know?

[00:21:01] And that really is what I think the Lord I. Like, yeah. Just in my perspective, there’s gotta be that. And I, I see people don’t get sat, they’re not satisfied with just, you know Yeah. You in a three point sermon. No. And, um, and there’s a place for that, don’t get me wrong. Yes. It’s necessary. The preaching the word is important.

[00:21:16] Yes. Right. But it’s gotta be packed in with some experiential. 

[00:21:20] Jason Stuhlmiller: I think it’s the John 1421 manifest presence. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Where, where Jesus says those that, that love me will keep my commands and I will reveal myself to them. Yeah. He manifests himself on those of those encounters that we’re talking about.

[00:21:33] Jason Stuhlmiller: You know, my son, last January, you know, he had, he’d grown up in the church, gone through the, well, in my opinion, I, I would say he’d gone through the motions for a long time. But in January had an encounter with the Lord for two hours. Woke up different. Yeah. And, you know, has, has been running on fi on fire since and it’s that manifest presence, that encounter with the Lord that, that shifted things.

[00:21:54] Yeah. 

[00:21:54] Jason Stuhlmiller: And really like. We, we all know who, how, how we encountered the [00:22:00] Lord. Right. You know, it probably wasn’t just a regular church service, you know, like the Lord showed up. I was in a prison, so my regular church service, the Lord showed up in a way and he made himself real. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that’s, um, yeah, that is, that is what I’m praying as we continue is like, well, let, let me just back up real quick.

[00:22:18] Jason Stuhlmiller: Um. Kinda in 2020 when we were birthing all this, I was listening to a sermon by Michael Miller and he, he presented this concept of ministering to the Lord. Well, in, in 10 years of vocational ministry, I’ve, I was always taught, receive from the Lord and give to people. I. Ministering to the Lord. Why does he need ministry?

[00:22:37] Jason Stuhlmiller: And um, what I’ve learned in this process is all we have to do is host his presence. Yeah. We welcome him in here. Yeah. He chooses to use us. He doesn’t need to. He chooses to have to, but when he shows up, he knows what every single person needs. Yeah. And one of the example Michael gave that, uh, there was the guy that was sitting in this church, um, uh, for a long, you know, a long time.

[00:22:57] Jason Stuhlmiller: He was a drag queen for a really long time. And, um, was came up to Michael after one of the services and said, Hey, uh. I’ve been, I’ve been sitting here for a long time. Um, I, I want to go all in. Do you have a program that you can turn me onto that I can jump into and Michael’s like, no, just keep coming.

[00:23:16] Jason Stuhlmiller: And let the Lord finish what he started. Amen. And I think we, we’ve been a, a generation that is programmed for everything. Yeah. We’ve given you a program for this and this and this specifically. We just need the presence. The presence of the Lord shifts and change every, everything. Yeah. 

[00:23:30] Rob Reynolds: Well that’s where like I’ve been, of course, I told you like I got a five and a 6-year-old, so I guess that’s the alpha generation, you know what I mean?

[00:23:35] Rob Reynolds: Yeah. So. I’ve been trying to say, you know, okay, God, like my other kids, I got saved in the middle of them. You know what I mean? So they knew all bad for one season, uh, and now they’re getting all Jesus. But I have these two ones in these young ones. God, how do I cultivate? Like of course I’m getting ’em in a word and I’m praying for ’em.

[00:23:54] Rob Reynolds: And we got specific scripture. We pray a lot before we go to bed, but I’m like, God, what? And, and [00:24:00] this is what she said, like this what you said. And that’s the Lord speaking to me too, if I’m not passing on my intimate secret place. What good is all the scripture doing? I’m not saying it’s not good, but like you, you need both.

[00:24:12] Rob Reynolds: And it’s like, yes, we can teach ’em that. We don’t think it’s like we, we forget that hey, they’re little babies, but they can still understand it five or six. And so God was like, yes, teach them. So we started at night just taking, and they’re young, they can’t do it too much. Like I can sit for an hour now and just, you know, be with the Lord.

[00:24:30] Rob Reynolds: So we started at night before bed. It is like getting 15 minutes. And turning on a worship song, sometimes just one worship song and just teaching him, Hey, let’s just sit. We’re not gonna say nothing. We’re just gonna believe. And Dad’s gonna like prophesy over you, that God would come down, visit you. You would feel his presence and know he is real.

[00:24:48] Rob Reynolds: And you can talk to him just like we’re talking. And if he don’t say anything, it’s okay, but you’re gonna hear the voice of God eventually and we’re gonna sit and do that. 

[00:24:55] That’s good. 

[00:24:56] Rob Reynolds: And so I feel like it’s the same thing when you’re getting new baby Christians in. If we’re not first rooting them in the intimate secret place, we can shove all the knowledge we want, but they’re missing the encounter experience.

[00:25:09] Rob Reynolds: Not that it’s all about that. Right. But without that, it’s kind of just, yeah. Stuff, it’s just kinda knowledge, you know what I mean? Yeah. 

[00:25:17] Because if you don’t, if you don’t, um, like experience that early on in your walk, like it’s easier. It’s easier when I’ve been in the faith for 20 years and I, and normal church is just kind of working Right.

[00:25:31] Without the encounter, without the intimacy. Yeah. It, it’s, it’s harder to get to that place. Yeah. Like you, you know what I’m saying? Mm-hmm. Like, yeah. Because I think you see new Christians come in quickly and grateful for the freedom and grateful to be set free and they just, they just go all in. Yeah.

[00:25:47] They experience that where somebody’s been. Life is kind of halfway okay for 20 years. You know, what do I need to spend three hours in the program for? Right? Like it’s working so far. I mean, not really. Generations behind you aren’t following [00:26:00] cases. Yes. Or running away so something’s broken, you know? And that’s what we have to come to realize as a whole.

[00:26:04] We acknowledge 

[00:26:04] Rob Reynolds: that, come to that realization that, hey, listen. For the past two or three decades, whatever we’ve been doing hasn’t worked. Yeah, yeah. Let’s just collectively shift change, sit with him and find out what to do. Right? Yeah. Like him and that, that’s the program. Sit with him. He’ll tell you, I think.

[00:26:21] Rob Reynolds: Mm-hmm. You know, that’s good. And, and, and receive the new wine. Like let’s get rid of the old wineskins that had their place and add their time, and let’s really put on some new wine that we don’t know what it looks like and what’s coming, but we’re willing to sit with you and have you pour it in. Then whatever comes out comes out.

[00:26:36] Rob Reynolds: Yeah. 

[00:26:36] That’s good. Well guys, thanks for the random chat. We’re gonna, uh, turn this off now getting ready for soundcheck and stuff in here. But, um, Rob, I’ll drop your information and the comments below all at the table for those who are watching and want to connect. But, um, any part words? 

[00:26:52] Rob Reynolds: No, just stay hungry and get ready to cast your nets into the harvester.

[00:26:56] Rob Reynolds: That’s 

[00:26:56] Jason Stuhlmiller: right. That’s good. I think we need to continue this at some point. It’s been a good conversation. I will.